Why don't you keep making 1b a week while training tengu skills on the main?

The reason I say this is because in the current scenario loans are difficult to get, especially if you do not have sufficient collateral. If you've got collateral, you can get a loan at a low interest rate like 2-4%.

imho it is fun training up for a ship. My first tengu, kept getting better and better as I skilled up, and I fell in love with the ship. This sort of experience is not possible when you buy a character.

Also to consider: tengu has been nerfed to oblivion for pve, imho. The heavy missile nerf hit tengu bad, and I've given up doing missions, as they are no longer fun. Tengu used to be king, and now it's not even good enough to sweep the streets it used to own.

1) Taking a 1B loan to buy a CNR, then in the middle of that loan using that CNR as a collateral for a much larger uncollateralized loan is not the best idea in the world .No tengu=no L4's and it's clear to me after our chat last night that you're no trader i.e there goes your revenue.

2) What If someone gives you that money and lets you keep the tengu and you loose it in a mission/gank/accident etc? do you have a backup plan?

And may I add that there is a large chance of that happening at Osmon, where you (OP) are currently operating. They tried to gank my (10b) Golem there, after which I try and avoid the place in pimped up ships.

You are saying all these nice, colorful words about raising interest etc. etc.. However you did not provide me with enough assurance that you will do what you say you will and it wont be a waste of my money. Okoolus rimmer asked legitimate questions (as any investor would) and you failed to provide coherent answers. Samroski made a good point as well .

My friendly advice to you is, think of how you can actually provide this kind of assurance. Have a plan/collateral. And investors will listen.

is the 1Bil loan with "I like it" finished or is it still outstanding?

I am. However I'm not convinced that you'll be able to pay it off.
I'll think about this .. if I decide to give it to you I'll let you know.

Edit: OP wants to buy a char with sec status of -3.7 to run missions in highsec in a tengu...

Whats wrong with the plan? You wont follow it. You are a man who cant follow his own plan, you want every thing now, immidiat satisfaction. You first ask for 1 loan, then change your plan, then ask for a different loan, all this changes are just showing how incomplete your plan is...


What gurantee tomorow you wont come with a new plan? Your next great idea to make isk?
Play more time, decide what you want to do, have a plan and follow it, make that isk alone and be happy.

I think thats the basic problem people are having with it. When a guy says i will return the loan with an endless grind of missions - thats usually a bad sign. Why wont he just grind the isk himself? What promises he will do it and not abandon it midway? Especially when no collateral involved.

I dont think you will get a loan here. Go be a big boy and get that small amount with hard work, stop begging it looks sad.

This probably will end in disaster, but you seem to be very persistent.
I'm willing to offer the following:

500 M - 1 month - 15%

Small loan because you can't provide collateral and you are just starting out, so you can't really be trusted with bigger sums.
This way you can start building some reputation (bonus points for an early payout).
And it is also MY first investment, so I want to start small.

Message in-game if you are interested.

This probably will end in disaster, but you seem to be very persistent.
I'm willing to offer the following:

500 M - 1 month - 15%

Small loan because you can't provide collateral and you are just starting out, so you can't really be trusted with bigger sums.
This way you can start building some reputation (bonus points for an early payout).
And it is also MY first investment, so I want to start small.

Message in-game if you are interested.

i would like to fund your project but you should know that the best pve/mission boat is not the tengu or any missile boat.it is in fact by far the nightmare or the macherial.

as such i am unable to assist you with your current mission parameters im sorry.

ok how the hell are you doing 550 dps with the raven? Just get t2 cruise missiles and you will do at least 850 dps. you will have much better projection and tank with a tengu of similar price.

CNR's just got really buffed and do amazing damage even to smaller targets, you also have a drone bay which easily adds 100-150 dps with less than a 10 days of training in drones.

I have a character with less than 6m sp that does 850 missile dps (****** missile support skils level 3, and cruise spec 2), 70 drone dps (t1 drones), shoots upwards of 100 km , tanks any level 4 mission easily, and has an mwd fitted, so you won't have to slowboat, yes a motherfukin mwd, will also kill small targets efficiently (precisions + rigs + target painter on most missions), all that can be fitted for less than 500m. Just message me if you are interested in the fit.

There I just saved you the hassle of the loan, and a gave you a much a better option.

No you not, that isk isn't yours, you need to return it :)

You are one persistent bugger.

My most important requirement is for you to show that you have the willpower to grind the isk.

post wallet logs of you getting consistent isk daily or weekly.

Aside from the fact you have already been proven to have previously attempted to, possibly successfully, scam by doing an isk doubling thingymajobber...

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1615343
You have all these bounty payments to you yet only losemails. Now you have some bounty payments of 8 million isk, yet with how **** you fit your ships you expect anyone to seriously believe that you can kill cruisers and frigate hulls consistently.

I feel like adding some more;
http://i.imgur.com/2672k6u.jpg
What happened to the 6 billion you had here?

I'm curious why do you even bother still asking for a loan when we all know that the chances of you getting one are about 0.
At this point I'm not even sure you could even get a collateralized one (And that is quite an "achievemernt" lol).